Overall, I think there's agreement that this war is a global war and it is about the principles that we need to be able to maintain. We're starting to see that divide between the rules-based world and the non-rules-based world or others—the BRICS, as they call them.
I think that the rule-based order is really critical. Also, what we spoke of in terms of food security and energy security are issues that are going to affect all of the world. They are not going to disappear if Ukraine is defeated. In fact, the sense here is that they will increase.