I'm afraid we're out of time, Ms. Ackermann.
Thank you very much.
That concludes our first panel of witnesses.
Allow me to thank all of you for your insights, expertise and time. Let me once again apologize to Professor Wood, Professor Clapp and Ms. Ackermann for having had some challenges in the past. We're grateful that you went out of your way and made the effort to share your expertise with us today. Thank you very much.
I'll remind the members that we're going to require four or five minutes to get the second lineup of witnesses.
Thank you.