Yes, but I do appreciate that this is a very live debate, and I think we have to take great care in how we pursue it.
I just want to make one quick comment to you as well. As you'll remember, the 2005 effort was defence diplomacy and development together, and I question whether that is the right approach this time. There are real pros and cons. As Professor Chapnick suggested, when we have a defence policy update that is overdue, we need to see it, and I don't think we necessarily need to integrate in quite the same way as we tried to do in 2005.