Evidence of meeting #19 for Foreign Affairs and International Development in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was nunavut.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

R.J. Simpson  Premier of the Northwest Territories, Government of Northwest Territories
John Main  Premier of Nunavut, Government of Nunavut

The Chair Liberal Ahmed Hussen

Good afternoon. I call this meeting to order.

Welcome to meeting number 19 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Tuesday, September 23, 2025, the committee is resuming its study of Canada's Arctic strategy.

Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format, pursuant to the Standing Orders. Members are attending in person in the room and have the possibility of also using the Zoom application for remote access.

I would now like to welcome our witnesses for our meeting today.

From the Government of Northwest Territories, we have the Honourable R.J. Simpson, MLA and Premier of the Northwest Territories.

From the Government of Nunavut, we have the Honourable John Main, Premier of Nunavut.

Up to five minutes will be given for opening remarks, after which we will proceed with rounds of questions from my colleagues.

I now invite the Honourable—

Mona Fortier Liberal Ottawa—Vanier—Gloucester, ON

Before that, Chair, can I ask a question?

The Chair Liberal Ahmed Hussen

Yes.

Mona Fortier Liberal Ottawa—Vanier—Gloucester, ON

All parties have had a conversation. We would appreciate it if you could add one five-minute round for MP Lori Idlout in the first round, please.

The Chair Liberal Ahmed Hussen

Absolutely. Yes, that's noted. We welcome the honourable member.

I now invite Premier Simpson to make an opening statement of up to five minutes.

R.J. Simpson Premier of the Northwest Territories, Government of Northwest Territories

Thank you, Mr. Chair, for having me here today to speak to Canada's Arctic policy and Canada's Arctic foreign policy in particular.

Sovereignty is not something that can be declared; it needs to be built through presence, partnership and sustained investment. From that perspective, Canada's Arctic foreign policy is more than just a diplomatic document; it's a call for the country to meet its words with action.

The Government of Northwest Territories was actively engaged in the development of Canada's Arctic foreign policy. I met several times with then foreign minister Mélanie Joly. My colleagues and I appreciated her efforts to meet northerners where they are, including visiting the Northwest Territories and engaging with premiers in Iqaluit. The policy's emphasis on partnership with indigenous governments and territorial governments reflects that work, and the final document shows that northern voices were heard. Since the policy's release, Canada has experienced political transition and rapid geopolitical change.

The Arctic is at the centre of Canada's strategic future. What happens or fails to happen in the NWT will determine whether Canada can meet its security, sovereignty and foreign policy objectives in the north. A secure Arctic is not achieved through military presence alone; it's achieved through thriving communities, reliable infrastructure, economic opportunity and engaged indigenous leadership.

Canada's foreign policy correctly places people at its core. Implementation must continue to recognize indigenous governments and territorial governments not as stakeholders, but as domestic and international partners. Remember, indigenous sovereignty is inherent. Canada's sovereignty is built.

In the Northwest Territories, the greatest barriers to fully realizing the ambitions of the Arctic foreign policy are the same barriers we face across all areas of development: the lack of infrastructure and the extraordinarily high cost of doing business in remote regions. These are not abstract challenges; they affect housing availability, energy reliability and economic participation.

The NWT has much to offer through deeper Arctic-to-Arctic relationships, which have recently been reinforced through a visit to Yellowknife by the heads of mission of Norway, Denmark, Finland and Iceland, and just last week, our participation in the Arctic symposium, hosted by the Nordic Five here in Ottawa. Our shared interests with regions like Greenland and Nordic countries include climate adaptation, sustainable resource development, indigenous rights and cultural continuity. These relationships must continue to be a cornerstone of Canada's Arctic engagement.

That being said, our physical connections to other Arctic regions are limited and inefficient. There are no direct transportation corridors linking the western and eastern Arctic or connecting the territories to each other in a meaningful way. To travel from Yellowknife to Alaska, you have to go through southern Canada. To connect with Nordic countries, options are seasonal or indirect. Actually, to visit Iqaluit and Whitehorse, I had to become the Premier. I had never been to either territory until just a couple of years ago. These gaps weaken Canada's economic resilience and limit its strategic reach.

This is why a key focus of my government is on major infrastructure priorities, advancing the Mackenzie Valley Highway, developing the Arctic economic and security corridor and reducing the cost of energy, which remains the highest in the country. These are nation-building investments that increase affordability, enable trade, support population stability and strengthen Canada's Arctic presence.

Canada's Arctic foreign policy recognizes that attracting direct foreign investment into northern and indigenous communities is essential to closing the infrastructure gap, and I agree. That gap is simply too large for any one government to carry alone. However, foreign investment must be strategic, aligned with Canada's interests and grounded in strong partnerships with territorial and indigenous governments.

Further, strengthening Arctic sovereignty and security must go hand in hand with improving the lives of northerners. Investments in housing, energy, climate resilience, critical minerals, healing and wellness, and transportation infrastructure are not separate from sovereignty; they are how sovereignty is exercised.

Canada now has a clear international vision for the Arctic, and it is one that the NWT sees itself in. Our challenge is turning that vision into action. Global attention is shifting northward, and geopolitics are changing. The Arctic is no longer peripheral; it is central. The federal government understands this moment. The question now is whether we will meet it together. The people of the north are a great asset to Canada. By working in true partnership across governments, Canada will build a secure, prosperous and sovereign Arctic.

Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Ahmed Hussen

Thank you, Premier.

I now invite Premier Main to make his introductory remarks for up to five minutes.

John Main Premier of Nunavut, Government of Nunavut

Matna, Ikhivautaq. Thank you, Chair.

Thanks for the invitation to appear at this committee meeting, especially alongside my colleague Northwest Territories Premier Simpson, to speak on Canada's Arctic strategy.

It's more apparent than ever that Arctic security and sovereignty have become a global concern. The geopolitical uncertainty around Greenland, our neighbour to the east—I believe the closest point between Nunavut and Greenland is around 26 kilometres—has once again put a spotlight on the urgency to protect and invest in Canada's Arctic.

The Nunavut Arctic security and sovereignty strategy outlines that indigenous peoples, Inuit in our case, and inhabitants of the Arctic must be the key architects of any strategy, policy, framework or action plan about the region. That includes ensuring that there are sufficient investments and expansions in the very basic infrastructure that will bring us in line with national standards and expectations. It should come as no surprise to anyone that Nunavut is critically underfunded in this regard. For Nunavut, this is not simply the physical infrastructure needed to be able to defend our territory. It's the recognition and commitment to invest in human security. Nunavummiut, which means Nunavut residents, must have their basic needs met, including access to safe, affordable housing; reliable, affordable food supplies; and health care, education and training closer to home. The cost of living in the territory is simply not sustainable.

We welcome such federal programs as the Canada groceries and essentials benefit, which help, but those programs don't necessarily put into account the huge discrepancy in cost differences between southern and Arctic communities for food staples. Another example of a federal program that doesn't fit well in the Arctic context for Nunavut is the clean fuel regulations. Under the carbon tax, because there was recognition that the territory didn't have many alternatives to diesel use, Nunavut had a carve-out and exemption for fuel used in power generation, for flights north and for heating. We need the federal government to continue to recognize the unique challenges we face and adapt programs accordingly.

Mr. Chair, one in four Nunavummiut identify as being part of the hidden homeless. In Nunavut, 44% of people are severely food-insecure. How can we explore national Arctic security without ensuring that the people of the Arctic are safe and secure themselves?

We need to ensure that history does not repeat itself. The legacy of the Cold War and the DEW Line sites that still have a footprint in some of our communities remind us that we need to learn from past mistakes and do better. I am here today to advocate for the human aspect of security in Nunavut and across the Arctic as the federal government develops its Canadian Arctic strategy. However this strategy is finalized, it must include provisions to invest in Nunavummiut. There must be commitments and investments to raise their quality of life, not just for geopolitical safety but also to keep the promises made in the name of truth and reconciliation. Nunavut communities and Nunavut residents need to be strong and resilient to defend the Arctic.

I encourage members of this committee to balance the realities of conventional security with a commitment to the people of the region. Let's invest in them as much as in the ways we procure and transform our national defence strategies. Any dual-use and major projects to this end should include conditions to create opportunity and betterment for Nunavummiut and their communities.

As I mentioned, we need to acknowledge the real and painful history around Arctic sovereignty and avoid the mistakes of the past by listening. Nunavummiut are the knowledge-keepers. They have the lived experiences, the knowledge and the stewardship of the land and hold the expertise needed. Let northern voices guide you and let Nunavummiut be given access to the same support, standards and opportunities to thrive as other Canadians.

In conclusion, Mr. Chair, I want to thank the members of the committee for their attention and commitment to understanding the complexities of Nunavut and the Arctic as you work on this critical strategy. I appreciate your time and the opportunity.

I'm happy to answer any questions.

Matna, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal Ahmed Hussen

Thank you to both premiers for their opening statements.

We will now go to questions from the floor, beginning with MP Michael Chong.

You have six minutes.

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills North, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you to our witnesses for appearing in front of us today.

I noted that in your opening remarks you mentioned infrastructure and the need for infrastructure. Today, I'd like to focus my questions on highways in the north.

Since 1988, Canada has had a national highway system. It was first endorsed and defined by the council of ministers, but when you look at what that highway system is, particularly in the north, it's a bunch of gravel roads. That's part of our national highway system. This is all data from Transport Canada's website. I looked at our national highway system in the Northwest Territories, for example, and I note that it goes to Wrigley, Yellowknife and Inuvik.

First of all, I'm wondering if you could tell us what exactly is the highway to Wrigley. Is it paved or unpaved? For the benefit of people watching, according to the latest data I have, about 1,687 kilometres of our national highway system is gravel. It's unpaved. That's what is defined as part of our national highway system.

I'm wondering what this part of our national highway system is. Is it a paved surface? Is it unpaved? Is it two lanes, one in each direction, or multi-lane? What is that highway?

3:45 p.m.

Premier of the Northwest Territories, Government of Northwest Territories

R.J. Simpson

The highway to Wrigley is chip sealed for part of it, and part of it is gravel. When you come into the territory, it's chip sealed and two lanes the entire way. There have been efforts made to widen the highway, especially coming out from Alberta, but there are very few sections where you would say we have shoulders on the road.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills North, ON

Okay.

Is the highway to Yellowknife paved or unpaved?

3:45 p.m.

Premier of the Northwest Territories, Government of Northwest Territories

R.J. Simpson

It's chip sealed.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills North, ON

Chip sealed as well, and is it one lane in each direction?

3:45 p.m.

Premier of the Northwest Territories, Government of Northwest Territories

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills North, ON

Is the highway to Inuvik, at the north end of your territory, paved or unpaved? Also, is it one lane in each direction?

3:45 p.m.

Premier of the Northwest Territories, Government of Northwest Territories

R.J. Simpson

It is one lane in each direction. It's chip sealed.

The Dempster Highway comes out of Yukon. On our side of the border, I understand, it's a pretty good highway. On the Yukon side, it's the exit to their territory, far away from their major centre, so I think there's a little less maintenance on that side.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills North, ON

Is it largely gravel at that point?

3:45 p.m.

Premier of the Northwest Territories, Government of Northwest Territories

R.J. Simpson

Yes, it's gravel.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills North, ON

Okay.

It's gravel, and that's part of our national highway system, folks.

I note that in Nunavut, in the mainland part of Nunavut, there is no part of our national highway system. Our national highway system ends in Flin Flon, Manitoba, and in Thompson, Manitoba. That's the furthest north it gets, south of Nunavut. As far as I can see, there is no part of our national highway system in the territory of Nunavut.

Is that correct, Mr. Main?

3:45 p.m.

Premier of Nunavut, Government of Nunavut

John Main

Yes, you're correct. It's quite an unfortunate fact that in Nunavut many of the basic pieces of infrastructure, such as highways, simply don't exist. The closest in terms of the mainland portion of Nunavut, the closest we can get in terms of land transport, would be the railhead, which ends at Churchill. I believe that at one point there were plans or a desire to extend beyond Churchill, but that was scrapped many years ago.

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills North, ON

For the benefit of the members of the committee and people watching, this isn't just a northerner problem. I noted in the latest data on Transport Canada's website that there are 245 kilometres of our national highway system in the province of Quebec that are unpaved and there are 332 kilometres of our national highway system in the province of Newfoundland and Labrador that are unpaved. Clearly there's a lot of work that needs to be done in connecting northern and remote communities to infrastructure.

Our lack of east-west and north-south infrastructure within our own country is increasingly revealing the vulnerabilities of our national economy in light of what's been happening with the threats coming from our largest trading partner and ally, so I fully support your call for more infrastructure for the north, particularly paved highways. That's really important. The modern economy runs on transport trucks and intermodal cargo containers. I think part of the reason things are so expensive in the north is that we can't get product there very easily, and often, particularly in the case of Nunavut, it has to go by plane. That explains in part why things are so terribly expensive up north.

This is a welcome debate that we're going to have here, so I appreciate your feedback on that.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

3:50 p.m.

Premier of Nunavut, Government of Nunavut

John Main

Thank you for the words of support. We welcome any infrastructure investment into those basics. In terms of where we are right now, even gravel would be a huge jump forward for us.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills North, ON

Sir, I agree with you. I remember reading about E.P. Taylor's first subdivision in Don Mills and the construction of it. At the time, people were talking about the construction of Highway 401. The criticism of the 401 at the time was that it was going to be built too far outside the city and that it was too far north of the city of Toronto to be a good highway. My view on this stuff is to build it, and they will come. If we build highways from the north to the south that are proper four-lane, divided, limited-access highways, I believe things will naturally flow from those kinds of projects.

The Chair Liberal Ahmed Hussen

Thank you very much. We are out of time for that question.

We'll go next to MP Rob Oliphant. You have six minutes.