Evidence of meeting #11 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Daphne Meredith  Associate Secretary, Corporate Priorities and Planning Sector, Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat
Coleen Volk  Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services Branch, Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat
Linda Lizotte-MacPherson  Associate Secretary, Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat
Charles-Antoine St-Jean  Comptroller General of Canada, Office of the Comptroller General, Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat
David Moloney  Senior Assistant Secretary, Expenditure Management Sector, Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat
Hélène Laurendeau  Assistant Secretary, Labour Relations & Compensation Operations, Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Bibiane Ouellette

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

That's what we voted on, unfortunately.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

I did read the “as amended” when I tabled it.

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Mr. Bonin, we're discussing whether we will withdraw the whole thing, but we need unanimous consent to do that. If we don't have unanimous consent, then we're not going anywhere.

Monsieur Bonin.

10:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raymond Bonin Liberal Nickel Belt, ON

Madame Chair, if we are to reconsider this, and I agree that we should, at least I need to know the intent of Mr. Walkerton. Was the intent, Mr. Walkerton, to remove the 25-75 jobs? Was that your intent, to remove that?

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

It's Warkentin, not Walkerton where the water crisis happened. Ever since that happened I've been Walkerton, but it's Warkentin.

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

Raymond Bonin Liberal Nickel Belt, ON

Okay, Chris.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

Moving on from that, it certainly wasn't my intent. Because of the parameters Public Works has put forward, I believe jobs follow real estate. My belief was that having a tangible asset on both sides of the river would do what was intended in the motion: it would ensure a Canadian presence on both sides of the river, certainly for national unity's sake. That's where my motion comes from.

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Are you suggesting we reconsider the motion that was passed?

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

I'm happy to table this tomorrow.

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

We're not back here tomorrow. Are you saying we will reconsider the motion that was passed, which was your motion? And if so, can I ask if we have unanimous consent to do that, to reconsider the motion that was passed, because obviously it was not your intention?

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Point of order. The reconsideration is that there will be some time for negotiations and it will be brought back on Thursday?

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

No. You either reconsider the motion or it stays as is. We can't have it both ways.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

I'll leave it as is for now, until we have the next meeting dates and discussions to further this.

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

Madam Chair, am I right in understanding...? According to the Standing Orders, we have voted on his amendment; it passed. We are now discussing my amendment. If we vote, and if my amendment is carried, then Mr. Warkentin's amendment would automatically fall and be replaced by mine.

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Please, we'll ask the clerk to explain, because I'm not sure that's the case.

June 20th, 2006 / 10:40 a.m.

The Clerk

Mr. Proulx's amendment says that following the word “commitment” in Madame Thibault's motion, we add all this.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

So it's a replacement of what's there. It's not really clear that it's a replacement.

10:40 a.m.

The Clerk

Yes, it says “following the word 'commitment'”.

10:40 a.m.

An hon. member

We can't support that.

10:40 a.m.

The Clerk

Then you would have to change the word “jobs” in Mr. Proulx's. Do you understand?

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

I'm still on a point of order, Madam Chair.

My amendment does not talk of real estate; my amendment talks of jobs. Therefore, I repeat, if we accept my amendment as it is worded, the amendment we did for Mr. Warkentin falls off the table because it's deleted and replaced by mine.

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

I wanted to be absolutely sure, and that's why I asked the clerk to explain it, because I wasn't absolutely sure that was the intention. If it is, that's fine by me.

We're back on debate.

Mr. Bonin, did you speak already?

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

Raymond Bonin Liberal Nickel Belt, ON

No, but let me be clear. You are accepting Mr. Proulx's amendment?

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

The clerk tells us that his amendment will in effect throw out the other amendment.

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

Raymond Bonin Liberal Nickel Belt, ON

I support the amendment. That's all I have to say.