Government Operations Committee on June 22nd, 2006

[The Chair, Liberal, Diane Marleau]

Ms. Thibault.

[Louise Thibault, Bloc, Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC]

I understand that my colleague is suggesting that we study this matter, but we will not be able to do that today. I would like to have a discussion on the motion. I have a point to make, and the clerk will let me know if I'm in order or not.

The clerk sent us Mr. Warkentin's amendment to my motion. I would like us to deal with this by putting it to a vote, and then if people agree, we can conduct this study in the fall. The amendment would replace the word “jobs” with the words “real property”. I will have to consult the « blues », but I don't believe I'm incorrect in stating that Mr. Warkentin said that he didn't think this would have such an impact. Ms. Nash said she had voted, but hadn't realized... I understand what she means, because things went very quickly. The motion wasn't read.

Would you all agree to change the amendment to replace the words “real property” with the word “jobs”.

Mr. Moore, you were not present, but I must say that people stated that they had made a mistake. I will get the “blues” out in September and show them to you.

[The Chair, Liberal, Diane Marleau]

We have the “blues” right here.

Mr. Albrecht.

[Harold Albrecht, Conservative, Kitchener—Conestoga, ON]

Madam Chair, it seems pretty obvious that we're not going to deal with this within five or ten minutes, and I would respectfully argue that we should hear our witness and deal with this later.

[The Chair, Liberal, Diane Marleau]

Ms. Thibault.

[Louise Thibault, Bloc, Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC]

Since people don't agree, the amendment will remain as is. Now, Mr. Proulx has tabled another amendment and we have discussed it. I want to say to Mr. Proulx and my other colleagues that Bloc members are in agreement. There is no need for you and I to discuss this, Mr. Proulx, because we agree with your amendment.

[The Chair, Liberal, Diane Marleau]

I believe the Conservatives do not agree.

Mr. Kramp, are the Conservatives in favour of the amendment that Mr. Proulx put forward?

[Daryl Kramp, Conservative, Prince Edward—Hastings, ON]

No, we're not.

[Louise Thibault, Bloc, Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC]

I would like a recorded vote.

[Marcel Proulx, Liberal, Hull—Aylmer, QC]

A recorded vote, please.

[The Chair, Liberal, Diane Marleau]

Ms. Nash.

[Peggy Nash, NDP, Parkdale—High Park, ON]

Something we didn't have at our last meeting was the original policy we had been discussing. Everyone was talking about a 75/25 policy, and I think there was consensus on that around the room; we heard from the minister and everyone around the room that they supported that principle. I have gotten hold of that original policy, and to my way of thinking it's something quite different from what is being proposed today. So it seems to me that this is something we actually would want to take the time to look at very carefully, because what is being proposed would take us, if not in a different direction, certainly in one having more ramifications than the original policy that is in place today.

[The Chair, Liberal, Diane Marleau]

Mr. Proulx.

[Marcel Proulx, Liberal, Hull—Aylmer, QC]

On a point of order, the vote has been asked for or called, so let's vote, with a recorded vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, Diane Marleau]

On Mr. Proulx's amendment.

[Marcel Proulx, Liberal, Hull—Aylmer, QC]

That's right. The vote is called.

[The Chair, Liberal, Diane Marleau]

Okay. What we were looking at is who has the right to vote. I don't think Mr. Comuzzi is on, so we only have three votes for the Liberals.

[Marcel Proulx, Liberal, Hull—Aylmer, QC]

There are three registered with the clerk, Madam Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Diane Marleau]

Which three?

We'll just call their names, as you wanted a recorded division.

[Marcel Proulx, Liberal, Hull—Aylmer, QC]

Omar, Raymond, and me.

[Mike Wallace, Conservative, Burlington, ON]

On a point of order, Madame Chair, are we voting on...?

[The Chair, Liberal, Diane Marleau]

His motion.

[Mike Wallace, Conservative, Burlington, ON]

On his amendment.

[Marcel Proulx, Liberal, Hull—Aylmer, QC]

My amendment.

[Mike Wallace, Conservative, Burlington, ON]

His substitution, is what I would call it.