This is nothing personal, Ms. Gobeil, but I have experienced it, and I still hear about what officials are going through. I'm not just talking about senior officials, deputy ministers and assistant deputy ministers, but there are baby boomers among the directors general and directors who haven't become bilingual or who are no longer bilingual. That's why I ask that question. For those who are interested in these bilingual positions, will we ensure that, in future, we can rely on our education system to produce functional bilingual people across the country?
I say “across the country” because I'm not talking about Anglophones or Francophones in particular. If someone is interested in a designated bilingual position for any reason, it is up to that person to remain bilingual and it is up to that person's manager to ensure that he or she does so. However, that person shouldn't use all kinds of excuses. If, in 15 years, I were to see that there were still people who occupied positions and, for all kinds of reasons, still had an exclusion or an exemption, I would find that unacceptable. I think it is unacceptable after more than 40 years; imagine what I would think in another 15 years. That's my concern.
I have another question to ask. In your document, you—