In other words, there is a disconnect here. We have people who can do the job, people who are capable, who are often new Canadians. They have their foreign credentials, if they get them recognized, which is a challenge, and many of them are able to do that. They just aren't able to get in; they're hired for a temporary period, but that's not acknowledged. We have chaos here, is what I see from these two examples--in other words, not meeting the targets in employment equity and a huge runaway cost in temporary help services.
I have a last comment. When I received the results back from the order paper questions, I was shocked at the amount of money but also at where we're spending our money. It's quite revealing.
Thank you, Chair.