Yes, and that's maybe the question we have to look at as a committee, how we might be able to find efficiencies within the federal government. Again, the chair has identified a situation where ten people have been hired in your constituency, ten in my constituency, simply to transfer paper. They're collecting paper and passing it on. We have to see at what levels and at what places we can find efficiencies.
We appreciate your helping us to be in this discussion.