Evidence of meeting #46 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 39th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was spending.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

David Moloney  Senior Assistant Secretary, Expenditure Management Sector, Treasury Board Secretariat
Wayne Wouters  Secretary, Treasury Board Secretariat
Nicole Jauvin  President, Public Service Human Resources Management Agency of Canada

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

I am wondering, Madam Chair, if we might be able to get an answer to that question from the officials, please.

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Could we, perhaps?

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Secretary, Treasury Board Secretariat

Wayne Wouters

Sure. I mean, through the President of the Treasury Board to the Minister of Finance, I think that could be done.

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Could we have that in writing?

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

We'll see what the Minister of Finance says and--

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

Well, no. I'm asking you, Minister, because you're in charge.

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

I can't make commitments on behalf of the Minister of Finance.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

But you're in charge of spending, and this is a commitment on government spending from the Conservative Part. I'm just wondering, because you're the minister in charge of spending, if you could actually get us that answer.

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

I'll see what I can provide you with.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

Is that a yes, sir?

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

I'll see what I can provide you with.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

Is that a yes, sir?

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

Yes.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

Very good. Thank you.

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

I'll see what I can provide you with.

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Conservative

Garth Turner Conservative Halton, ON

Do you have a question, sir?

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

You have one minute.

Raymond Simard Liberal Saint Boniface, MB

Thank you, Madam Chair.

With regard to the Public Appointments Commission once again, given that your government campaigned on transparency, could you maybe tell this committee how many appointments have been done without the supervision of the new Public Appointments Commission to date?

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

Obviously, if it hasn't been set up, none of them have.

Raymond Simard Liberal Saint Boniface, MB

How many appointments since you are in government?

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

I'm not aware of that number.

Raymond Simard Liberal Saint Boniface, MB

Can you get back to us with that number, please?

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

The Privy Council and the Prime Minister can get back to you on that, yes.

Raymond Simard Liberal Saint Boniface, MB

On their behalf, you will get back to us.

Secondly, with regard to the $776 million of cuts, again can we get a list of those cuts and which departments they were in and which programs, because in fact they were cut based on programs that were no longer effective.

I wonder if you can tell us what criteria you used to establish what was no longer effective, because for instance, on the court challenges program, literacy, status of women, there was a lot of backlash on those programs when they were cut. Obviously people thought they continued to be effective. Can you tell us what the criteria were on those programs?

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Conservative

Vic Toews Conservative Provencher, MB

As I understand it, there were no cuts in respect of actual programming in respect of women. I've been through those numbers. I notice that the budget addressed that quite generously.

In respect of the other issues that you've raised—