The second part I would like to know is if there are any recommendations, other than pay, and then speak a little bit more in terms of the complexity or the paper burden or the red tape that needs to be reduced. Are there any other things that need to be done to ensure that people are attracted to these positions and then stay in these positions? Because obviously there's a huge cost in having people turn over in this department, I can imagine. Is there anything you can leave us as recommendations? Because I think all around this table there's a desire to see this fixed, and fixed for the long term.