Evidence of meeting #12 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Gregory Tardi  Parliamentary Counsel (Legal), House of Commons
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Michel Marcotte

9:30 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

Madam Chair, with the turnover rate, we get into the geographic distribution.

9:30 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Yes, but that does not deal with the problem directly. That is more or less halfway between the two and I think that we should perhaps go for a report that deals with payroll problems and then deal with the distribution of it all.

9:35 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

Are we going to need new wording for February 12?

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

It is the 12th today.

9:35 a.m.

Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

In my opinion, the most important thing is that list that we gave the clerk last week. It dealt with the order in which people would appear. I really have no objection with changes to that. For example, we could limit evidence to one hour on February 28. The sequence is the most important thing, however.

9:35 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

If I may, Madam Chair, I am moving along the same lines, the sequence, that is.

We passed a large number of motions last week and I would like to know if the clerk intends to suggest a different sequence. Am I bugging the clerk if I ask that question?

9:35 a.m.

The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Michel Marcotte

As you just said, there are a large number of motions. But they have been put in a certain order. That is why, on Thursday, we are going to look at the federal government's real estate plan, with Ms. Michèle Demers, from the Professional Institute of the Public Service, as a witness. Then Ms. Nathalie Bull, from the Heritage Canada Foundation, had asked to appear before the committee after Minister Fortier's appearance here last December. We could conclude with those appearances. Otherwise, we have Ms. Christiane Ouimet scheduled to appear the week after the break. Last October or November, she asked if she could meet the members of the committee to make a presentation about her office. So I put the three meetings that were requested as a result of the motion that was passed one after another...

9:35 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

Is that Mr. Angus' motion about Justice Gomery's recommendations?

9:35 a.m.

The Clerk

No, it was not the one about Gomery, it was Mr. Holland's

9:35 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

No, I think Mr. Holland had...

9:35 a.m.

An honourable member

That was about Linda Keen.

9:35 a.m.

The Clerk

That is correct. It was passed at meeting 9, in January, that is.

9:35 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

So that was about Atomic Energy of Canada, I think. So there were three meetings.

9:35 a.m.

The Clerk

That is correct, that is what the motion indicated.

9:35 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

In that case, I am going to dare to go a little further, Mr. Clerk. So we are going to have three meetings about the problems involving Mrs. Keen. Does that mean three two-hour meetings?

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

That is a lot of meetings on the subject.

9:35 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

That is what we decided. That takes us up to when? The budget will be tabled on the 26th, and we do not know what will happen afterwards.

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

I do not know if we agreed to have three meetings to talk about the problems involving Mrs. Keen. We will have to check the minutes of the meetings. Did we specifically say three meetings? I do not know.

9:35 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

Now am I bugging the clerk, by any chance?

9:35 a.m.

The Clerk

No, it was not written into the motion like that, but, during the discussions, we mentioned three meetings on the subject.

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

So, it is not a motion, we are not required to have three meetings about it.

9:35 a.m.

Bloc

Diane Bourgeois Bloc Terrebonne—Blainville, QC

Fine. My last question deals with the governor in council appointments. Do they absolutely have to been made in the next few days or can they wait?

9:35 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

That is for the committee to decide, because it was part of Mr. Moore's motion that we started to discuss.

Mr. Holland had asked to speak.

February 12th, 2008 / 9:35 a.m.

Liberal

Mark Holland Liberal Ajax—Pickering, ON

Merci beaucoup.

I'm just going to move an amendment, if I could, that recognizes that we did pass a number of motions and that we have to deal with those. I notice that February 12 has the issue of geographic distribution and turnover rates. Today is February 12, so I don't think.... But I'm going to leave that for now.

On February 14, I would suggest we deal with Madame Faille's motion; on February 26, with the motion I brought forward with respect to light rail; on February 28 and March 4, with the GIC appointments. Then I would suggest March 6 would for be the federal government real estate plan, and the meeting after that would be for Public Sector Integrity Canada. That would take us to the break.

This motion deals with the fact that the committee moved motions that were adopted by the committee. So I think those are the priorities of the committee, but they will still allow us to deal with the other items.

9:40 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

We've heard the motion moved by Mr. Holland.

Mr. Moore.