Evidence of meeting #13 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was witnesses.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Michel Marcotte
Michèle Demers  President, , Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada
Don Burns  Vice-President, Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada
Denise Doherty-Delorme  Section Head of Research, Professional Institute of the Public Service of Canada
Natalie Bull  Executive Director, Heritage Canada Foundation

10:50 a.m.

Executive Director, Heritage Canada Foundation

Natalie Bull

We analyzed the existing historic buildings preservation programs, and it's a fairly sad story.

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

I know. In my riding, we were led to believe we might be able to obtain funding from the program. According to the information we had, the funding had been exhausted.

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Executive Director, Heritage Canada Foundation

Natalie Bull

Perhaps we could talk later on about the details of the buildings you referred to.

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Yes, please.

If we summarize your recommendations, we should evaluate a building's symbolic value before selling it.

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Executive Director, Heritage Canada Foundation

Natalie Bull

Yes. We should try to keep these buildings in the federal inventory.

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

All right. As my colleague Mr. Angus said, if we decided to restore the fund, in the event it would cost less to demolish a building than to rebuild it, could we allocate 20%, for example, based on the cultural value of that asset? However, there's still no act.

Do you have any recommendations for the purpose of developing a bill?

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Executive Director, Heritage Canada Foundation

Natalie Bull

There's a draft bill at Parks Canada.

10:55 a.m.

Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

At Parks Canada.

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Executive Director, Heritage Canada Foundation

Natalie Bull

It's there, but it still has to be developed.

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Did you cooperate in developing that legislation?

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Executive Director, Heritage Canada Foundation

Natalie Bull

Pardon me?

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Did you or your association cooperate in developing that draft legislation?

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Executive Director, Heritage Canada Foundation

Natalie Bull

We're in favour of that legislation, but we weren't invited to take part in developing it.

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

All right. But that legislation exists in draft form.

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Executive Director, Heritage Canada Foundation

Natalie Bull

That's correct.

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Thank you.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Diane Marleau

Merci.

We'll end with Mr. Albrecht.

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Conservative

Harold Albrecht Conservative Kitchener—Conestoga, ON

Thank you. I just wanted to comment before I get to my last question. I'm glad to hear that Mr. Angus is considering recognizing the value of private enterprise and working along with the heritage people to preserve their assets.

Personally, I would say I would be more than willing to look at a proposal for some way of studying how we could develop some type of partnership. I think the primary player in this one would have to be municipal or provincial government, but I would certainly be willing to look at a proposal that would incorporate those three levels of government, whether it be a tax break on property taxes, as you suggested, or whatever other kinds of initiatives we could pursue.

I did come back to my third question, and the reason I couldn't find it was that it related to your second recommendation, statutory protection.

Now, I just picked up on a bit of the conversation about a draft bill. Is that the draft bill you were referring to when you answered the previous question, or was that a different issue you were speaking to?

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Executive Director, Heritage Canada Foundation

Natalie Bull

I've forgotten the previous question, but --

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Conservative

Harold Albrecht Conservative Kitchener—Conestoga, ON

It's related to Parks Canada.

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Executive Director, Heritage Canada Foundation

Natalie Bull

The Canada historic places act.

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Conservative

Harold Albrecht Conservative Kitchener—Conestoga, ON

Is that what you were referring to in recommendation two?

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Executive Director, Heritage Canada Foundation

Natalie Bull

Yes, that's right.

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Conservative

Harold Albrecht Conservative Kitchener—Conestoga, ON

Do you have a copy of that or would you have a copy of the draft? I would be interested in looking at it, at least, and seeing where it is.

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Executive Director, Heritage Canada Foundation

Natalie Bull

Well, I am a former Public Works employee, so I was involved in reviewing the draft bill as an employee, but in my current role I don't have access to it.