That's right. But he never denied speaking to reporters, actually, in the lock-up.
Secondly, my observation and characterization of the information he provided was that it was in the public domain. All I can tell you is that that was being talked about in the capital, and I can assure you that in the investigation there is no doubt that there was no briefing on NAFTA for the chief of staff by anybody at the embassy.
That was not the purpose of the trip, and it was incidental. It would have been a discussion, but only in the same vein that it's a topic of conversation pertinent today around the Hill. That's all I'm saying.