Government Operations Committee on June 16th, 2009

[Rob Anders, Conservative, Calgary West, AB]

I'm going to pursue some questioning on this. I'm fearful that if you're able to find a list and send it to me...sometimes my staff have a way of sorting through things before they get to me.

You listed the Museum of Civilization and the Museum of Nature. Do you have some others to add to that list of museums?

[Richard Flageole]

There's the Museum of Science and Technology and the National Gallery of Canada. I think Mr. Wiersema mentioned the new Museum for Human Rights in Winnipeg. So we have four in Ottawa and one in Winnipeg. The War Museum is a part of the Museum of Civilization; it's not a separate corporation.

[John Wiersema]

Another major crown corporation that wasn't on the member's list is Farm Credit Canada. There's the Canadian Dairy Commission, thinking of the agricultural portfolio. Pretty soon we'll have all 46.

[Rob Anders, Conservative, Calgary West, AB]

That's excellent. That's part of the goal here.

Just to make sure I understand, is the Canadian Dairy Commission involved in supply management?

[John Wiersema]

That's correct.

[Rob Anders, Conservative, Calgary West, AB]

You're very precise in making sure you answer the chair.

Are there any other museums we haven't hit on?

[Richard Flageole]

You have all of the museums.

[Rob Anders, Conservative, Calgary West, AB]

You also focused on some things under Transport. We have the Canada Air Transportation Security.

[Richard Flageole]

There are four pilotage authorities. There's the Blue Water Bridge corporation--

[Rob Anders, Conservative, Calgary West, AB]

Are they separate or do they fall under one umbrella?

[Richard Flageole]

All the transport-related crowns are under the Minister of Transport. A good number of other crowns not necessarily related to transport are also under the umbrella of the Minister of Transport. The Royal Canadian Mint is quite an important one, which I think we didn't name. Downsview Park, Canada Post, and the Federal Bridge Corporation are all transport-related.

[Rob Anders, Conservative, Calgary West, AB]

Are the four you mentioned under pilotage considered to be one of the 46, or four of the 46?

[Richard Flageole]

They're four separate crown corporations.

[Rob Anders, Conservative, Calgary West, AB]

Let's list them specifically so I can compile my list. You mentioned Blue Water.

[Richard Flageole]

There's Atlantic Pilotage, Great Lakes Pilotage, Laurentian Pilotage, and Pacific Pilotage. They are four separate crown corporations.

[Rob Anders, Conservative, Calgary West, AB]

I count five there. You said Blue Water, Atlantic, Great Lakes--

[Richard Flageole]

Blue Water is a bridge.

[Rob Anders, Conservative, Calgary West, AB]

I have 25 now, so I'm almost halfway there.

[The Chair, Liberal, Derek Lee]

You're a good counter and I'm a good counter. I just counted up to five minutes, so I have to interrupt your valuable line of questioning and look to other members.

Monsieur Roy.

[Jean-Yves Roy, Bloc, Haute-Gaspésie—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC]

I would like to ask a question about the Pacific Pilotage Authority. I want to know what you mean by the term “pilots' performance evaluation“.

Is this an evaluation of the use of the pilots' time? It is not clear to me. Are you just talking about the use of their time? Are you talking about their time at work?

[John Wiersema]

No, I think it's broader, Mr. Chairman, than the use of their time. It's an evaluation of their performance as pilots of the boats. The Pacific Pilotage Authority did not have processes to assess pilots' performance. As you would expect with most employee-employer relationships, periodically there's a formal performance assessment done of an employee's performance. These pilots were performing services on behalf of the Pacific Pilotage Authority. We were encouraging the pilotage authority to have means of assessing the pilots' performance as pilots of the boats, through formal performance appraisals.

[Jean-Yves Roy, Bloc, Haute-Gaspésie—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC]

Once again, if I understand correctly, there is a problem with the qualifications of the staff.

[John Wiersema]

They need to be concerned about the qualifications of the pilots and whether the pilots are carrying out their duties appropriately when piloting these boats. So I think both are required: they have to ensure that pilots are appropriately qualified and are appropriately performing their duties as pilots.

[Jean-Yves Roy, Bloc, Haute-Gaspésie—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC]

That is fine.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Derek Lee]

Merci, Monsieur Roy.

Mr. Brown.