Sir, I'll deal with the last question first.
On the older worker program, I'd like to say that a number of our trades have been getting involved with displaced auto workers--for example, members of CAW, etc., who have been displaced in southern Ontario. They're working with those organizations to help them retrain.
In Canada it takes three or four years to cook a construction worker. Some of the trades are licensed, so it takes time to get that licence. However, we are working with other parts of the economy to find people who are willing to join our industry and also to get them up to speed.
Is there a particular older worker program? None that I'm aware of, although we are looking at assisting displaced people to come to our industry.
Your first question was around programs, specifically with EI. A lot of our training centres do deliver provincial curriculum. They're sanctioned to deliver the curriculum of Ontario, the curriculum of Quebec, or the curriculum of British Columbia. Those are EI-eligible curriculums.
Is there retraining going on within our ranks? Yes. The Employment Insurance Act is very complicated, but the part II money is generally the money that is used for delivering curriculum, providing assistance to displaced workers, and so on.
Really, our workers benefit in two ways from EI under both parts of the act. Under part I of the act, we benefit when members are out of work and they actually claim EI and get an EI cheque. Under part II, the operating engineers, for example, in Oakville--I don't want to speak for Mr. Schumann--deliver Ontario curriculum for crane operators, so there is also a connection that way.
That would be the best I could provide in terms of an answer.