Again, because I was a training coordinator during the nineties, what happened was we lost a generation, if I can put it that way. We don't have the supervision today. Most of the trades are looking for their leadership again, going back, trying to get more younger people involved. That left a real gap in our demographics.
What the gentleman here said about the environment.... Our contractors and our clients do a lot of building and moving forward on good faith and on how they perceive things are going to be because it's so long term. That's why it's extremely important that the attitude or feeling that's out there that's put forth by you as the committee and the government is so important to their mindset and how they're going to go about bidding work and creating work and creating jobs, because it takes a long time.
We will lose apprentices. We'll lose another year or two years where we don't bring young people in. That just creates a whole other cycle. We're trying to plan five to ten years ahead of where we're going to be.