I'll make it quick anyway. I just wanted to make a very quick intervention that yes, Public Works is genuinely interested in dialogue. We've met various people in IT service branch as well as acquisitions branch. We have met with and continue to meet with CABiNET and other associations who are interested, and we have done these consultations.
The piece is the dialogue piece, and if I look back at Mr. Lynt's comments to you today, I think it speaks loudly. For instance, if 5,000 jobs are going to be lost, one of the questions we have asked is—and it says that I asked it, actually, and that it's in the notes, so, yes, I did—what are the 5,000 jobs that will be lost?
In a dialogue you need to get information in both directions. We are trying and we continue to try. This is an ongoing process, and I'm sure that when you have a session with our experts you'll get more answers to this, but that is the kind of dialogue we are trying to encourage to actually find out exactly what that calculus is and what the concerns are.
One of the roles of OSME is to identify barriers for SMEs.
For example, we ask questions of small and medium enterprises in order to find out what the hurdles are, what the obstacles are that prevent them from participating in procurement. We work very hard to find out in detail what those obstacles are.
I just wanted to add that.
Thank you.