Another issue having to do with personnel.... I see Ms. Binnington is here, and maybe she can help us with this one.
We've also heard that as part of the personnel policies, if you have term employees and if they are in continuous employment for three years or more, either they automatically become or they're required to become permanent staff. We've heard the department's practice is to wait until the very end of the third year and lay them off and find somebody else, or do I don't know what.
Can you tell us how common that is within the forces? I think this is on the civilian side. Do you have any numbers in terms of the number of term employees you have? And are you forced to do this for some reason, to lay people off because you can't hire them permanently? What's the problem here? Because it seems to be rather arbitrary that someone is doing a job, and because this deadline comes up all of a sudden they're gone.