Evidence of meeting #21 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Doug Maley  Assistant Deputy Minister, Alberta Region, Western Economic Diversification
André Morin  Director, Valuation and Payments in lieu of taxes (PILT) Programs, Department of Public Works and Government Services

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Order.

Mr. Cullen, you have the floor.

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NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Clearly, today the committee has sought, in its wisdom, to call forward the people most directly implicated in--

June 2nd, 2010 / 3:55 p.m.

Ottawa West—Nepean Ontario

Conservative

John Baird ConservativeMinister of Transport

We're here to give you the truth. You can't handle the truth.

3:55 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Madam Chair....

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An hon. member

Call the security.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Order.

Mr. Baird, don't interrupt.

Yes, Mr. Cullen.

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NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I find the minister has more affectations for Hollywood than he does Parliament.

He should know that in this place, the power of parliamentary committees rules over considerations of any partisan interests. It is the power of this committee to call witnesses forward to find the truth of the matter. This is what the opposition has attempted to do.

In all earnestness and respect to the government, they must abide by it. Otherwise, they threaten the very foundations on which this House of Commons is built; they threaten through their tactics of prorogation, intimidation of officers of Parliament, and cutting of funding to programs that have the audacity to criticize the government's policies. These are all dangerous paths that the government is on right now. It must reverse course and allow witnesses forward who can actually bring testimony, actual evidence, to allow Canadians to understand what happened in this affair. It is incumbent upon the government to do it.

I thank you for the committee's time, Madam Chair.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Thank you.

I've heard from all sides, and I'd like to make a ruling.

I am disappointed, as everybody is, that witnesses who were invited today have not shown up. But we have two witnesses who have shown up--Mr. Maley and Mr. Morin--and we are continuing our study.

So I would request that the committee focus their questions—

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Conservative

John Baird Conservative Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Point of order.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

—on Mr. Maley and Mr. Morin, and if you have--

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Conservative

John Baird Conservative Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Point of order.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

I'll have to throw you out of this committee, Mr. Baird, because you can't—

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Conservative

John Baird Conservative Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

I'm a member of Parliament.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

—have a point of order here.

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Conservative

John Baird Conservative Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Point of order.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Could you turn off his mike?

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Conservative

John Baird Conservative Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Point of order.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

So to the committee, I could ask you—

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Conservative

John Baird Conservative Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Point of order.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

—if you want to ask a question—

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Conservative

John Baird Conservative Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Point of order.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

—of the ministers, you can--

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Conservative

John Baird Conservative Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Point of order, Madam Chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

--but we can, if we want to--

4 p.m.

Conservative

John Baird Conservative Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

Point of order.