Evidence of meeting #22 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was contract.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

John McBain  Assistant Deputy Minister, Real Property Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Frank Brunetta  Assistant Deputy Minister, Departmental Oversight Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Charles Rate  President, SNC Lavalin Operations and Maintenance (O & M)
Martin Lefebvre  General Manager, Public Works and Government Services Canada, SNC Lavalin Operations and Maintenance (O & M)
Justin Sharp  Senior Vice-President, Facility Management, SNC Lavalin Operations and Maintenance (O & M)
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Marc-Olivier Girard

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Thank you.

What I was then suggesting is that she's coming from 4:30 to 5:30, so we have one hour.

Can we choose to have one of the ministers here, either Minister Paradis or Minister Prentice, or Parliamentary Secretary Brian Jean, who has probably had more interactions with the green fund than anybody else?

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Alexandra Mendes Liberal Brossard—La Prairie, QC

Definitely Brian Jean.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

What is the preference of the committee? A suggestion has been made.

Mr. Warkentin.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

Just so that I'm following this, what does the schedule include now? We're talking about the second hour of the 9th?

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

No, we have finished with the 9th. We're going to the 16th. The 16th is where Ms. Guergis is coming only from 4:30 to 5:30.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

Okay.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

I'm trying to ask, what do we do from 3:30 to 5:30, since this is about the green fund?

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

My fear, and this is only my fear, is that we haven't heard from Mr. Jaffer yet. I'm afraid that we may have to confirm that he's coming. So I think we need to leave time available for that to happen.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Do you mean that I have to summon him? Is there something you know that I don't know?

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

No, I don't know.

I'll be frank that I'm disturbed that we haven't yet heard back from him and had confirmation.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

We haven't heard back, right?

5:30 p.m.

A voice

No.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

We haven't heard back, no.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

My only concern is that we haven't yet heard a yes. That's my fear.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Yes.

So then on the 9th, if Mr. Jaffer doesn't turn up, that's when you're going to seek a summons from me for Mr. Jaffer. Is that what you mean?

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

I suspect so, but I'm just saying that if we are still here on the 16th and we haven't heard from Mr. Jaffer before the 16th, I think we'd better have some time available for him. That's what I'm saying.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Fair enough.

Is the committee generally comfortable that we leave that hour open in case Mr. Jaffer agrees to come? If he doesn't come on the 9th, we have to summons him for the 16th.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Yes.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Okay, fine.

Alternatively, if he comes on the 9th, can you tell me which minister you'd like the clerk to at least start negotiating with?

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

The concern has been raised as it relates to the passport issue. Mr. Martin had indicated that. I don't know, but we might hear something on the 9th yet.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

I would like to ask the committee's indulgence because we need to have an in camera discussion for five minutes, please. No?

We have to finish that report, because I think it was the will of the committee to do so. If only two of you are leaving, can some Conservative members at least stay to go through that?

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Ed Holder Conservative London West, ON

I do apologize, Madam Chair.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

You know that I only need three members.

Can at least one of you stay and make a decision as to what we want to do with this report that's hanging over our heads?

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Chris Warkentin Conservative Peace River, AB

Well, we haven't—

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

We're going to go in camera.