—I appreciate this question because there is some explanation. There is a process for the green fund where you submit proposals. It goes through the minister's office. It goes through the bureaucracy. If it has merit, it's considered to go forward. If it has merit, then you are supposed to put in a formal application for funding.
None of our projects ever made it that far, but I understood that in telling Mr. Jean, these are our projects, these are some things we're interested in.... I wasn't paid on behalf of anyone to find out which ones may or may not be of interest to the government; that would constitute lobbying. This is what I've always maintained.
You can find out information from any government department, any individual you know in government. Unless you're paid to change anything or to ask for anything, unless you're paid—