We're not forensic accountants; we're citizens of Canada with a concern about the kind of community we know we need. We know the conditions of victims, offenders who are being sent to prisons, and their families.
We know from the U.S. experience that the likely estimates and projections of what this is going to cost are far higher than what we have heard quoted here to date. We know that Kevin Page has had a great deal of difficulty getting the kind of data needed to make a different assessment. We know it already costs too much. And we know, for example—and I believe you were given this information graph that gives some of these facts—that the cost of housing and supervising an offender in the community, federally, is $24,000, instead of $83,000 or $101,000, depending on the level of security.