In fact, shortly after my appointment, back in January or February, I had several meetings with David Hutton and a few meetings with Allan Cutler, separately, to get to know them, because I did not know them. I came from another sphere, if you wish.
They agreed when I suggested the creation of a permanent, multipartite advisory committee of which they would be a part. They attended the first three meetings, which in my view were very successful, to foster a dialogue among all those involved in implementing the act, including the Treasury Board, the tribunal—not the judges, but the executive director of the tribunal--APEX, which represents EX managers within the public service, and so on and so forth.
I have done that and I intend to continue that. It was my idea to--