Are you talking about the reductions as announced in Budget 2012? Those staff reductions amounted to 38 person-years only.
Or are you talking about the exercise that I mentioned earlier, the very major structural deficit? The minister said that he wanted our reductions to be made in administration because he did not want to affect programs. He did not want to affect Canadians. We made all our cuts internally by increasing efficiency, so that Canadians would not be affected.