I think we should be careful what we talk about from an in camera planning meeting.
But I can say from the chair's point of view that I met yesterday with the secretary of the Treasury Board, who told me quite plainly that these very people who we need today to talk about the supplementary (C)s are never available on Thursdays. That's the day of the one meeting where they have to be briefing cabinet, etc. Therefore the original plan to have them come on Thursday wasn't possible, so we went ahead rather than waste the meeting even with full knowledge that it's not an adequate period of time to do justice to these complicated estimates and the full knowledge that a recommendation from our committee report was that we would try to structure things in the future to give MPs more time.
It didn't happen this time and your point is well taken, but I don't know if there's any real point in debating it much further.
Mathieu, please be brief, and then we'll go on to questions.