Yes. I've looked at it to try to correlate it to economic trends. I've looked at it in terms of political leadership. I can't discern a very good correlation.
The best I can come up with is that it's an idea that caught on very early. It was new and exciting, and it was successful, but those people, through promotion and other things, go on to other positions, and again, within the departments, they lose a bit of corporate memory about it. For some of these projects that were done in these departments 10 years ago, no one has any idea that they were done, because the person who was responsible is not there anymore.
It's a good program. There are good employees there. They understand it. I think it needs to be revitalized and promoted. This is why I think coming back to this benchmark and setting some objectives would do that. You have all the tools. They're all there and ready to go.