First, the money required to make changes is already in the system. It's going out the window. If you have inefficiency in the operations of your buildings, the money's there. What you do is capture those funds and capitalize them. You don't need new money; you already have it in the system.
The federal government might even borrow money at 2%, 3% or 4% to do the changes but the savings created would pay for that financing. You don't have to go and look for new money; it's in the system.
The other thing related to ESCOs and the energy performance contract world is you go there when you're desperate, when you don't have people and when you don't have the resources to do that work but you're going to pay for it. Our approach or our belief is design-build: do it with the people you have in the system; bring in a few resources to help you do that, but do it yourself. Have your people do it themselves, because they make the changes and they have to run the buildings so why not just do it that way. You'll save a lot of money.