If you have any more information or contacts on Historic Zero, the federal government has a lot of historic sites and it could benefit from that knowledge and experience to make our heritage buildings more energy efficient.
Mr. Staszenski, we haven't really heard this testimony before. We've heard it somewhat, but it's very interesting that you're talking about the difference between tactical decisions and strategic decisions. This may be particularly important for the federal government and their buildings because of the challenge of needing to invest now to have energy savings but they would have to spend the money now and there are tight budgets.
You say you don't think these performance contracts are necessarily a good idea because they could cost too much. Do you have other suggestions on how the federal government could approach this? Is it worthwhile to be making an investment now because of savings into the future? What's the challenge for governments?