The entire transformation is aiming to be completed by 2019-20, but we will be making incremental progress as we go. The e-mail system, for example, will be fully implemented by the end of March 2015. We have opened a first enterprise data centre here in the Gatineau region, which is a development and test data centre. We will be opening two other enterprise data centres later this year in southwestern Ontario. That will enable us to start moving workloads, as we call them, from the old data centres into the new data centres. For example, we closed 10 of the 485 data centres this year, and we anticipate closing another 40 or 50 in 2014-15. It's incremental. It's not a big bang thing.
As you probably know, Mr. Chair, IT projects are considered to be risky from a management point of view. One of the ways of addressing that risk is to reduce it to sizable, smaller, chunky projects. That's how we're going forward with this. We're doing it in small, bite-sized pieces as we go, with a view to completing the whole transformation by 2020.