Yes, this isn't a program. It's a dimension of who we are. It makes sense. In business, I often use the difference between commitment and compliance. This is a commitment that we have. It's who we are. It's the way we do things. We entrench this philosophy in the newest hires we have, and throughout their careers with Suncor it's meant to carry through.
We've talked about attaining diversity in government and in business and whatnot, and we're at a point in Suncor where we want to leverage diversity. It's not as if we don't have a diverse supplier base, with diversity in gender and diversity in people with experience of different cultures. We also have a mandate to start bringing together these focus groups, for lack of a better term, and saying collectively what we can do better or differently going forward. It's in our hands, and we need to leverage that going forward, but to Ginny's point, if this were a program, it would die on the vine. This is a long-term commitment, and that's just the way we do things in every facet of our business.