Sure, I'm happy to respond, but I don't truthfully know if I can respond to that.
Yes, I've heard that's a consideration. I'm not sure where it's at in terms of the actual considerations moving forward.
Acquisitions program is the common service provider in Public Services and Procurement Canada for the government. I think we have a really solid working relationship with the owners of the PSAB policy, and so I think separating policy and contracting considerations makes sense to a certain extent, as does perhaps collapsing them. I think there are pros and cons to both.
In terms of what Mr. Wright was saying earlier, key to what we're looking at here, whether it's in one organization or both, is how we are modernizing our approaches. How are we actually changing the way we do business?
One example of what Mr. Wright referred to earlier, in another context that will take you to defence procurement, is under our national shipbuilding strategy. We've worked in partnership with the prime contractors as well as aboriginal firms to make sure we have capacity-building in the form of training. We've trained more than 1,500 aboriginal workers in very skilled trades related to steel and welding. I think looking at it holistically, rather than simply transactionally, with our partner departments and agencies is the way to go.