I hear you on that. I would humbly suggest that I think those conversations are important, in part to try to initiate the culture change the Auditor General has talked about. If you don't go back and talk to those people—and I'm not talking about a witch hunt or persecuting them or anything like that—and have those conversations, then I don't know how you show in your department that it matters who took what decision when and that people now are still concerned to know. The answer that “I wasn't there and I don't know, and you'd have to talk to somebody else, but I don't know who that person would be” seems to me to be part and parcel of the culture that leads to a lack of accountability, if people feel that the buck can be passed that easily.
On June 7th, 2018. See this statement in context.