I hope I would never get to a point that I got a presentation like that and then had to go back. We're trying very hard, Les and I and Michael, our other colleague, to create a culture at PSPC—learning from Phoenix, frankly—such that the questions, the discussions will take place and that we'll be able to ask the deep questions, have those conversations, and create a safe space for employees to have a respectful workplace, a healthy workplace. That's what we're striving for.
It's not an easy thing, though, and I think we just have to remind ourselves that this is something that will take time.
We will have to be absolutely convinced.
I would have to say that in just about every speech I make to staff, we talk about this and about creating this space and environment, but we can't stop. It will take time. Employees need to see that we walk the talk and that we mean it. I would not want a presentation like that coming at me if I hadn't been prepared for those type of recommendations.