Yes. For example, there are 23 departments that have real property, that have buildings. We convene an interdepartmental group at a senior level of all departments that are greening. Just at the last meeting, for example, Defence presented on their energy environment strategy and what they're doing in their initiatives.
We convene all the departments. We also have sub-working groups, if you will, tackling particular areas. With fleet managers, we have all the fleet managers together and then we can deal with fleet issues. It's the same thing with real property.