Quickly, I'll go back again to targets. I think that we need to hear from veterans. Where are the measures today?
I agree with Mr. Lick. I don't think that there's a lot of untoward action being taken out there. I think that it's an unconscious bias in a lot of cases.
We have an intent in legislation. We don't have a program with clear targets that says, “Achieve this, and if you don't achieve it, understand why.” A big part of that would be interviewing those veterans.
When we look at the stats today, for the 58% who were not selected, do we know why? Did they deselect? Were there issues with their applications? I think there's a lot of information that we don't have at hand because we're not managing this like a deliberate program. It's an option among many.