Evidence of meeting #173 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was military.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Ron Rea  As an Individual
Morgan Gay  National Negotiator, Public Service Alliance of Canada
Baxter Williams  Executive Director, Employment Conditions and Labour Relations, Treasury Board Secretariat
Sandra Hassan  Assistant Deputy Minister, Employment Conditions and Labour Relations, Treasury Board Secretariat

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Employment Conditions and Labour Relations, Treasury Board Secretariat

Sandra Hassan

Work is continuing.

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NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

In this agreement, are you looking to enhance that? Is that the goal here?

Again, we have a program here with a discharge. I want to see if there's consistency in that. There's been a lot of work on PTSD. There's been a lot of work in the Canadian public on how to deal with mental health as an issue.

It seems to me that we have a memorandum of understanding, but when will we actually get a full understanding on it?

When will we actually have it implemented and also an obligation on the employer for mental health? When is that something that's going to be something that's done?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Employment Conditions and Labour Relations, Treasury Board Secretariat

Sandra Hassan

I gave you a general response to that to the best of my knowledge.

I have a colleague whose responsibility is the implementation of, or the next steps in regard to, that MOU. I can't answer that specific question, but you may want to invite the people who could answer those specific questions.

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NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

I want to give the last word to you, Mr. Rea, for this. I want to thank you.

I think it needs to be more than an understanding. In a country like Canada, there should be more than just an understanding at this point.

Mr. Rea, I have about a minute left. I don't know if you have qualifications to fix a payroll system, because we desperately need your help on payroll.

But if you have some advice to the committee, please give it, because it's the last minute. I invite you to sharpen us in the last moment.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, for your indulgence.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Lukiwski

It's a tough question, Mr. Rea, but if you have any suggestions on how to fix the Phoenix pay system, go right ahead. You have about 50 seconds.

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As an Individual

Ron Rea

I'm wicked good at Excel. I had to teach everyone in my unit how to use Excel and how to commit to fiduciary responsibility within all my units. I've always come in under budget and under schedule in every project that's ever been handed to me. When it came time to get things done, everyone came to me.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Lukiwski

Thank you very much.

Maybe we can export that expertise over to Phoenix some time in the near future.

To all of our witnesses, thank you for being here.

To Mr. Rea specifically, thank you for your service to your country. Thank you for attending today by video conference. Your suggestions, recommendations and observations have been helpful.

To all witnesses, once again, should you have further recommendations or suggestions that would assist this committee in developing our final report, please submit them as quickly as possible to our clerk, because we'll probably start drafting a report within the next week or so.

With that, once again, thank you for your attendance.

Colleagues, we are adjourned.