I'd like to return to the goal of the act—to encourage public servants who've witnessed wrongdoing to feel comfortable coming forward. I think something that all parties on this committee are struggling with is that so few people seem to have come forward through the processes laid out by the act. It seems like we might have, at most, a few hundred who have tried to avail themselves of the process in any way, and only a handful have gone through the tribunal process. It makes us wonder whether the process really is open and encouraging to potential whistle-blowers.
I think, Mr. Trottier, your answer to this was that there were many other processes that whistle-blowers or people who perceive wrongdoing might go through before the Public Sector Integrity Commissioner or the tribunal. I wonder if you could give us any numbers or any sense of how many public servants are going through these other processes.