I have a similar kind of question for Public Services and Procurement.
Our committee has certainly been studying the Phoenix payroll system and Shared Services. We've heard some very strong testimony that many people knew about the problems with Phoenix and that the boondoggle could have been avoided if they had felt comfortable coming forward.
Mr. McCauley asked about this, and it seemed that your response, Ms. Glover, was to say that while there were a lot of problems with Phoenix, there wasn't wrongdoing according to the act.
That may be true, but it seems to me that ultimately we want to foster a culture where people feel comfortable coming forward and calling attention to those kinds of problems, before they go off the rails in the way that Phoenix and Shared Services have. I just want to give you another chance to address this.