Evidence of meeting #102 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was audit.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Karen Hogan  Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
Andrew Hayes  Deputy Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
Sami Hannoush  Principal, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. David Chandonnet

7:25 p.m.

Liberal

Majid Jowhari Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

Because there are two partners and these two—

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

No, no. We're not addressing that. It's just “have” instead of “has”. It's purely grammatical—nothing else.

(Subamendment agreed to)

(Amendment agreed to)

Okay. We are perfect. Thank you, Mrs. Block.

Normally, Mrs. Vignola the teacher, I expect that from you, and I'm sure that was coming later today.

7:25 p.m.

Bloc

Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

The French doesn't have any grammar mistakes. How wonderful.

Yes. You made a mistake on the easiest part.

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Are we ready to go to a vote on this amended motion, everyone? It's on the amended motion, the final one that had been emailed out to everyone. It's the one emailed out, but with “have” and not “has”, because we've agreed to make the grammatical change, the correction. We'll record it.

(Motion as amended agreed to: yeas 9; nays 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Wonderful. It passes.

Colleagues, we are going to suspend.

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

On a point of order, Chair, I want to clarify. We've adopted the main motion now, so are we good?

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Yes.

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Thank you.

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Mr. Bachrach, I think you have to sign out and sign back in with a different Zoom. We'll suspend for a couple of minutes until we get Mr. Bachrach back, and then we'll be back in camera.

7:25 p.m.

NDP

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

I won't be there, Mr. Chair. I'm going to have a sub for the in camera portion. Thank you.

7:25 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Okay.

[Proceedings continue in camera]

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Okay, everyone, the interpreters have their paperwork.

Mr. Sousa.

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Mr. Chair, thank you so kindly.

I'd like to move a motion dated today, February 14, and it reads as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(c), the committee undertake a study on the government's work towards regulatory modernization; that the committee examine matters including:

(a) Examining how to reduce the unnecessary administrative burden for individuals and small businesses;

(b) Examining how to simplify regulatory processes, including certifications and codes of practice, without the need to make regulatory changes and the introduction of regulatory sandboxes;

(c) Cutting unnecessary red tape to make cross-border trade easier through more consistent and coherent rules across governments, such as adopting national standards more widely; and

(d) Examining regulations that may impede international competitiveness;

That the committee allocate four meetings to conduct this study; that witnesses be submitted to the clerk of the committee by February 28, 2024; that the committee report its findings and recommendations to the House; and that, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government table a comprehensive response.

In the French and English versions, I think the date is February 21, but we suggest February 28.

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Did you say by noon on February 28 for witnesses?

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Yes.

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Thanks very much, Mr. Sousa.

We actually started one in OGGO in the last Parliament. We actually had a motion like this one, as well. I appreciate your bringing it back. I see Mr. Kusmierczyk's border stuff, so I suspect it is involving that.

I see agreement among all of us. Is that correct?

Mr. Cannings.

8:05 p.m.

NDP

Richard Cannings NDP South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

The NDP doesn't see the necessity of moving so quickly with this. We would rather this be scheduled after the Canada Post study.

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

This is just a motion. This is not to start a meeting.

8:05 p.m.

NDP

Richard Cannings NDP South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

However, there is a date involved here.

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

I think it's a date for witnesses, Mr. Cannings.

8:05 p.m.

NDP

Richard Cannings NDP South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

As long as that's understood, then.

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

This is a motion to start, not to set dates or anything, and it's solely for witnesses. I understand your point, but it's not affecting that.

Is there agreement?

(Motion agreed to)

It's passed, so thank you for bringing it up.

Very quickly, on Canada Post, I've reminded everyone several times that Friday at noon is the cut-off for witnesses.

Before we go, we have Mrs. Vignola.

8:05 p.m.

Bloc

Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

During my first turn, when Ms. Hogan was here, I gave notice of a motion. I read it out in French, so that is the authoritative version. The English version can be amended or drafted to match the French. I wanted to know whether the committee agreed with compelling the production of the documents listed. As it stands, the motion does not include any meetings or anything else. It is merely about compelling the production of documents for the purposes of our examination.

Does the committee agree with the motion I read out during my first turn?

8:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Is your intent to move the motion right now, or are you just asking if we're generally in favour, and that we pass it at the next meeting?

8:10 p.m.

Bloc

Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Are we ready to vote on the motion now?

8:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Mr. Jowhari.