Yes—well, I mean, our life has been pretty much turned upside down, and we've been trying to figure things out. There aren't a lot of people who are giving us information, but through our discovery, we can tell you that Botler was very close with Minister Miller. They even knew his chief of staff by name and waved to her in an interview. We know that they sat at the top of Department of Justice Canada and that they were given a seat at the table with the top of the Department of Justice Canada. We know that Amir Morv was in videos with Justin Trudeau and we know that he was part of a speaking engagement on AI where Justin Trudeau was kind of the guest speaker.
From my vantage point, I don't know who my MP's chief of staff is by name, but yes, when they say “leadership”, it means either the Clerk of the Privy Council or politicians, in my view.