Evidence of meeting #109 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was company.

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Thomas Bigelow
Darren Anthony  Partner, GC Strategies

12:55 p.m.

Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

My observation at that time was that there were more and more RFPs available for tender on...at that time, it was Buyandsell.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Majid Jowhari Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

How about from 2015 to the present?

12:55 p.m.

Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

It would be, I guess, status quo.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Majid Jowhari Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

“Status quo” means what? Were the RFP numbers the same as they were during 2012 and 2013? I don't understand.

12:55 p.m.

Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

I don't have those numbers in front of me, what the actual numbers were—

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Majid Jowhari Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

We're talking about trends. You've told me that since 2015 you've had 200 contracts, and you're telling me that—

12:55 p.m.

Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

No. We made 200 submissions for RFPs. We did not have 200 contracts.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Majid Jowhari Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

Okay. You made 200 submissions for RFPs. You're telling me the win rate was 15%. That would be about 30 contracts. You've secured 60 to 65 contracts, which is nearly 35% to 40%. Some numbers do not make sense to me, sir. As an owner of a business that has proven to be successful, I would strongly suggest that you be prepared for the next round of questions that I'm going to ask and be able to talk about those trends and what you've made as an observation.

I think my time is up.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Yes, it is.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Majid Jowhari Liberal Richmond Hill, ON

Thank you, Chair.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

Ms. Vignola is next, please.

1 p.m.

Bloc

Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Anthony, I will ask you a simple question: when it comes to ArriveCAN, do you know how much you earned, how much went into one of your bank accounts or the other? Do you know? I’m not even asking you for the amount. I just want to know if you know how much you earned.

1 p.m.

Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

I don't have those numbers.

1 p.m.

Bloc

Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

You are a business owner with repeat contracts, specifically with the Government of Canada, but you don’t know how much you earn for a living. You have two other numbered companies. Things are going marvellously well. I would love to be so rich that I don’t have to be worried about how much I earn and how I spend it. I’m sorry, but that’s mind-boggling, at the very least.

You mentioned opportunities that started to present themselves in 2012 or 2013. Does that line up with the IT layoffs happening at that time?

1 p.m.

Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

I'm not sure. It could be.

1 p.m.

Bloc

Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Okay, that must be one of the many coincidences this committee has seen over the last few weeks.

Stop me if I’m mistaken. Before buying Coredal Systems Consulting, you were a paid employee at Veritaaq until 2010. You then went to i4C Consulting. Is that right?

1 p.m.

Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

That's correct.

1 p.m.

Bloc

Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

How does one go from being a paid employee to someone who buys a company for its security clearances? Did you use another company as a financial backer and dissolve it afterwards? Has does it work?

1 p.m.

Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

Well, basically, how we started the company was that we were entrepreneurs and we decided to take a risk and invest our money to purchase Coredal.

1 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley

I'm sorry. That's our time.

Mr. Bachrach, please go ahead, sir.

1 p.m.

NDP

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Mr. Anthony, PSPC suspended your company's security clearance. I imagine that this news gave you quite a bit of concern as chief security officer. Is that correct?

1 p.m.

Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

No. Actually, we cancelled Mr. Firth's security clearance the day before. He was a key security officer for the company, and we cancelled his clearance then. We were aware that we were going to lose our security clearance for the company.

1 p.m.

NDP

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Wait—I'm a little bit confused. Mr. Firth was the chief security officer?

1 p.m.

Partner, GC Strategies

Darren Anthony

No, he's a key security officer.

1 p.m.

NDP

Taylor Bachrach NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

He is a key security officer, and you're the chief security officer, and because you knew you were going to lose your company's security clearance, he pre-emptively cancelled his security clearance?