I think we need to try to get better alignment in terms of both the policy framework and infrastructure investments. I think there are a number of opportunities where we can choose to invest more money in some of this essentially national infrastructure. The same kind of logic about making other wider societal infrastructure investments applies here. If you can spend a billion dollars now that will have a $2-billion impact over 30 years, to me that's something worth considering.
In terms of accessing that wider human talent pool, if you go to more facilities, there's a trade-off in efficiency and project management. You have to weigh it, but I think the existing shipyards certainly don't have enough staff on the blue- or white-collar sides, and as we move to a third shipyard with a whole other basket of projects, that's only going to get exacerbated. That's fundamentally Canada's problem to address, irrespective of which shipyard employs people.