Evidence of meeting #149 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was program.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Three meetings if necessary, but not necessarily three.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
Yes, we may get through in two because if TBS sends one person, then that's....
The Clerk
The witnesses I have are Treasury Board officials, Information Commissioner of Canada Caroline Maynard and Public Sector Integrity Commissioner Harriet Solloway. At the end, we have the amendment that was put forward initially by Ms. Blaney, which reads, “And that the committee agree to conclude this study after hearing from these witnesses and move on to the review of a draft report; that the committee present a report to the House and request a government response.”
Conservative
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
The Integrity Commissioner is out, but President O'Gorman is on the witness list.
Quickly, we will go to you. We're almost out of resources, but we'll start. We'll at least hear, and then we might have time Wednesday, depending on Minister Hajdu.
Actually, I'll follow up with you, Mr. Kusmierczyk, regarding submarines afterwards.
Go ahead, Mr. Sousa. We're very short on time, but we can at least get started, and I want to hear from you.
Liberal
Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'd like to move a motion. It reads as follows:
That given the chair made a unilateral decision to cancel the meeting on October 10, 2024, and then called a meeting with less than the usual practice of 48 hours of notice during constituency week, without consulting with other parties, the committee members request that the chair (a) adhere as much as possible to the committee's usual schedule, and (b) for meetings called outside standard scheduled times of the committee, or not due to Standing Order 106(4), the chair consult and obtain agreement from members, and (c) respect a minimum of a 48-hour notice period, and (d) that particular attention and respect to these requests be given during non-sitting weeks.
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
I have a point of order, Chair.
This motion does not appear to be substantially different from a motion that was previously moved at this committee, so the appropriate process is to....
The motion hasn't been distributed, so it's not entirely clear, but this appears to be virtually identical to a motion previously moved, so the proper procedure would be to seek the resumption of debate on the previous item.
However, maybe you need to reserve judgment on that until it's seen and distributed—I don't know—but you can't move a motion that's substantially the same.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
It is pretty much identical, and we're almost out of time.
Are you able to perhaps take it back, massage it a bit more, and then re-present it, Mr. Sousa?
Liberal
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
It's not a matter of massaging it, but it does have to be substantively different. Just one item, I think, was changed on it, so I'm wondering.... Again, we're almost out of time anyway, and rather than just adjourning for lack of time.... We're almost out of time, so I think we may have to address this at another time anyway. I'm wondering if perhaps—
Yes, go ahead.
Liberal
Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON
Mr. Chair, I just want to remind everyone in this room that whatever we've done in the past and regardless of what has been stated, it's not been adhered to. I think it's important for us to resubmit the motion or put this new motion forward to substantiate the will of the committee.
Thank you.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Kelly McCauley
I'm going to suggest that it is not substantively different enough. Perhaps do so and update it a bit for our next opportunity.
With that, we're out of resources.
We are adjourned.
