I think Anthony makes a good point and Gord makes a good point. I'm good with whichever way we decide to go, with documents first or somebody from the department first. As for what Kelly was saying, I don't know how members of the committee feel, but I think back to specific times when I've asked PSPC and people from the air force specific questions about air defence. When I asked about the Javelins and all of the different ones, they either wouldn't say or they said it was an operational issue. I would ask them, “Are you sending any to Ukraine?” That was an operational issue.
Then I read in the The Globe and Mail yesterday about some Ukrainian soldier saying, “Boy, because of those Carl-Gustafs we're blowing up Russian tanks left, right and centre.” I couldn't even get them to answer that in committee and then I read about it in The Globe and Mail.
To me, the issues are different as far as talking about fixed-wing aircraft and what we have for weapons goes. The point is, to Kelly's point, that it doesn't matter who's in government, whether it's the Conservatives, Liberals, NDP, or if somehow the Bloc figures out how to get into government.