Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
I'm going to come back to a subject that Ms. Vignola brought up in her first line of questioning, because I think we need to clarify a little bit. Ms. Vignola was talking about the idea of people, usually women, who were working in the same jobs as others who were civil servants and then were being terminated and rehired, spending their entire careers without getting benefits. Both of the answers then revolved around how to prevent employee-employer relationships, and it didn't sound like we were getting to the point that Ms. Vignola was making about protecting the little person.
The employee-employer relationship protects the government from not being the employer, but it doesn't protect the little person who is allegedly being forced to do a job and then labour laws are not being complied with properly. I don't think there is such an issue in the federal government, so I want to give the opportunity to everybody to come back and clarify.
Ms. Royds, let's say we hired someone, not outsourced someone, to be a civil servant. The federal government would not simply terminate someone before the 12 months of their continuous protection would apply under the Canada Labour Code, because that person would normally be under collective agreements and would be fairly treated. We would not simply be summarily dismissing people and bringing them back willy-nilly or we would have multiple union issues in every department. Is that correct?