Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you to the witnesses.
I'm going to ask the same question of Ms. Carr and also Mr. McCarthy, beginning perhaps with you, Ms. Carr.
Departments are required to consider internal staff before outsourcing a project, but you say that this doesn't happen enough. Could those make-or-break policies be strengthened, and if so, how?
Mr. McCarthy, this will go afterwards to you.