I think it's much higher than it needs to be. We could have the work done by public servants who are just as well trained and who are even more experienced and even more aware of the needs of the department, and we could be managing it so much better than by just going to the contracting piece.
I think that we have a challenge in that most of our management are military members and, while they are excellent in their responsibilities to the CAF, I've never met a military member who enlisted because they wanted to manage public servants.
As a result of that, it's very easy to move towards a contracting-out position as opposed to trying to build up the workload and having to manage.