No, to be clear, I think it's perfectly reasonable and understandable that ministers want to have an outside perspective. If somebody comes to you and says, “We're going to buy 88 fighter jets, and this is what it's going to cost,” the Treasury Board ministers would like to have some outside validation of the ship design, the procurement process, or the costing and so on. Particularly with regard to costing, ministers want to see outside advice.
I had a number of discussions with the President of the Treasury Board at the time about how Shared Services Canada was doing, and I advocated for more investment in training, IT, and the needs around cybersecurity and so on. All that is to say that it's important to reinvest and recapitalize the capabilities of the public service.