Ms. Ritika Dutt at the Government Operations and Estimates Committee

I can provide an answer to that.

The app that became ArriveCAN was something that Firth would regularly speak to. When we were first interacting with him, starting in November 2019, he used it as an example. At the time, it was supposed to replace those immigration cards for border crossings. That was eventually then turned into ArriveCAN with the groundwork that was already complete.